{"id":1231,"date":"2014-03-22T23:54:49","date_gmt":"2014-03-22T23:54:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sneakerheaddata.wordpress.com\/?p=1231"},"modified":"2016-05-02T15:23:33","modified_gmt":"2016-05-02T19:23:33","slug":"campless-feedback-then-and-now-ideas-are-worthless","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stockx.com\/news\/campless-feedback-then-and-now-ideas-are-worthless\/","title":{"rendered":"Campless feedback then and now &#8211; ideas are worthless"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My general belief is that ideas are worthless, execution is everything.\u00a0 Want to prove it?\u00a0 Talk to a random person about your &#8220;great idea&#8221; and then show a random person an actual product &#8211; great or not.\u00a0 Let me know which gets more interest.<\/p>\n<p>With that in mind I thought it&#8217;d be interesting to look at some of the feedback we received at Campless way back when this was just an idea versus a few of the tweets we received recently.<\/p>\n<p>In June of 2012, I had just started collecting data and wasn&#8217;t exactly sure what I was going to do with it.\u00a0 I posted on NikeTalk looking for help.\u00a0 Not only was the feedback overwhelmingly negative, but my post got shut down by a mod.<\/p>\n<p>I posted:<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8220;We are building a sneaker site around data and market analytics &#8211; what are sneakers actually worth, how can you tell, what is available in the market, how does value change over time, what does this mean for the resale market, etc. . . . We are looking for one or two part-time developers who love sneakers and want to join the team because they love sneakers . . If interested please email, do not contact through NT&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Here are some of the comments:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong><em>people collect and sell sneakers?<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong><em>Trying to understand the concept.. Why does any of this matter?<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong><em>Son people look at ebay&#8217;s 15 day completed sales to find value of shoes.<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong><em>What a terrible idea. Shoes are worth what someone will pay. If anyone wants to know what shoes are worth go do eBay search of recently ended items. Your welcome.<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>And then, finally, the mod:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong><em>Do not contact through NT. In other words: \u00a0&#8220;I&#8217;m not a legit NikeTalk member, I&#8217;m just here to take advantage of the community for personal gain.&#8221; Thanks, but no thanks.<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>OK.\u00a0 That was clear enough.\u00a0 That was the last time I posted on NikeTalk about Campless for almost two years.\u00a0 And to the purpose of the post &#8211; exactly zero people volunteered to help.<\/p>\n<p>(fyi, here&#8217;s a <a href=\"http:\/\/niketalk.com\/t\/343737\/sneaker-startup-looking-for-developers#post_20138347\" target=\"_blank\">link to the full thread on NikeTalk<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>Now, in comparison, here are a few of the tweets we&#8217;ve received in the past two months:<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Campless\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><s>@<\/s><b>Campless<\/b><\/span><\/a><\/em> <\/span><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><em>Data rules all. You guys put out awesome stuff though and it&#8217;s a blast to read. Insightful and informative. Well done!<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><strong><em><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Campless\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><s>@<\/s>campless<\/span><\/a> I salute you for your research. It is truly game changing. I can&#8217;t wait to see what else you have to bring to the game!!<\/em><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Campless\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><s>@<\/s>Campless<\/span><\/a> should be followed by every sneakerhead.<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Campless\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><s>@<\/s>Campless<\/span><\/a> just wanted to congratulate you for sharing such valuable info and high brow content with everyone<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>And my personal favorite:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><em><strong>I&#8217;m gonna look back and remember when I followed <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Campless\"><span style=\"color: #008000;\"><s>@<\/s>Campless<\/span><\/a> when they were still small.<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>So there you have it &#8211; idea vs. execution.\u00a0 This is not to say that we don&#8217;t have detractors today or that we can&#8217;t do things better &#8211; because we do and we can.\u00a0 The point is simply that back when we were in the idea stage, we received exactly zero comments like these, on NikeTalk or anywhere else.\u00a0 And now, in addition to the kind words, we&#8217;ve had quite a few people volunteer to help &#8211; but we&#8217;re always looking for more, see &#8220;<a title=\"About Campless\" href=\"https:\/\/stockx.com\/sneaker-blog\/sp-campless-site-contact\" target=\"_blank\">Join the Team<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n<p>What do you think?\u00a0 What has your experience been with ideas vs. execution?<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;..oh, wait, just realized there is no sneakerhead data in this post . . . crap, er, uh . . . quick, OK here ya go . . . there were 8 pairs of the Jordan 7 Miro sold in the past 12 months at an average price of $895 . . . whew.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/images-wp.stockx.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/air-jordan-7-retro-miro1.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"StockX Image\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-1240\" src=\"https:\/\/images-wp.stockx.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/air-jordan-7-retro-miro1.jpg\" alt=\"Air-Jordan-7-Retro-Miro\" width=\"637\" height=\"373\" srcset=\"https:\/\/images-wp.stockx.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/air-jordan-7-retro-miro1.jpg 637w, https:\/\/images-wp.stockx.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/air-jordan-7-retro-miro1-300x175.jpg 300w, https:\/\/images-wp.stockx.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/air-jordan-7-retro-miro1-624x365.jpg 624w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 637px) 100vw, 637px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My general belief is that ideas are worthless, execution is everything.\u00a0 Want to prove it?\u00a0 Talk to a random person about your &#8220;great idea&#8221; and then show a random person an actual product &#8211; great or not.\u00a0 Let me know which gets more interest. 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